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'''This is not representative of the current/final judge rulings. We lost track of everything.'''
<span style="float: right;">__TOC__</span>'''This is not representative of the current/final judge rulings. We lost track of everything.'''
 
'''Despite the standard header above used for gamestate tracking documents from Round 9, I believe that this document is correct. --[[User:CodeTriangle|CodeTriangle]] ([[User talk:CodeTriangle|talk]]) 23:08, 23 July 2021 (UTC)'''


== Ruling 1 ==
== Ruling 1 ==
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;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
: Response: "false". "Such actions take place in the order specified in the message (or in the order they appear, if no order is specified)." The action of performing a Quacktion is default-method: "The following actions are designated "Quacktions" and can be performed by posting intent to do so in #game-actions.".
: Response: "false". "Such actions take place in the order specified in the message (or in the order they appear, if no order is specified)." The action of performing a Quacktion is default-method: "The following actions are designated "Quacktions" and can be performed by posting intent to do so in #game-actions.".
== Ruling 35 ==
;2021-04-15 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: If someone incorrectly executes a step in a multi step action, what should they do?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "I dunno." Why are you asking me for advice?
== Ruling 36 ==
;2021-04-15 | Wotton
:Rfj: "JumbleTheCircle! should re-roll [https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/832344597836726362 this result]"
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "I dunno". I find that the retrieval action has been fully specified, as the authorization to retrieve and the authorization to gain loot are separate in the rules text, without the former explicitly being contingent on the latter. Jumble cannot therefore make a separate retrieval attempt. The loot action, however, has not yet been fully specified. Jumble can fully specify the loot action by properly rolling a 2d6. As for whether e should, /shrug.
== Ruling 37 ==
;2021-04-15 | Wotton
:Requesting judgement on the following: "When a smoothie is created, the owner of the duck that performed the quacktion that generated the smoothie gains the generated smoothie."
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "true".
== Ruling 38 ==
;2021-04-16 | Nyhilo
:Judgement. What are the specifics of how descriptions are combined, per the smoothie section of the Fruit rule?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "The combined description is the result of concatenating the descriptions of the individual fruits in an unspecified order."
== Ruling 39 ==
;2021-04-16 | Nyhilo
:Malicious request for judgment. Regardless of the gibberish tacked onto the end, was a smoothie still created [https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/832679097120325672 here]?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "yes".
::Default-method game actions may be performed by, clearly and without obfuscation, announcing intent to do so in #game-actions-ä9, provided that any rules-defined conditions placed on its performance are fulfilled and that any necessary parameters are specified clearly and without obfuscation.
:Performing a quacktion is a default-method game action. All necessary parameters were specified clearly and without obfuscation, and intent to do so was announced clearly and without obfuscation. All conditions were, afaict, fulfilled.
== Ruling 40 ==
;2021-04-23 | ATMunn
:request for judgement: "It would be legal for me to feed another player's duck this voting period."
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response "true". I find that having fed another player's duck is evaluated continuously, and at this point you have not fed another player's duck in this voting period.
== Ruling 41 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: What did Wotton's smoothie made just right now do to the gamestate?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 42 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Is "Grape Orange Smoothie" a valid smoothie name?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 43 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Does checking for adopting proposals happen before any proposals taking effect?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 44 ==
;2021-04-25 | Wotton
:RfJ: Is it legal to give one's duck a name of style that is not listed in the ruleset?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 45 ==
;2020-04-25 | ATMunn
:RfJ: How many RfJs is too many RfJs?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "one".
== Ruling 46 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
RfJ: Is "Enacting" synonymous with "take effect"?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "no". Rules are enacted once but take effect continuously.
== Ruling 47 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Did EP911 cause the linked proposal to take effect, despite it saying to "enact" the proposal?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "no", regretfully. "Enact" and "take effect" have such specific legal meanings that they cannot be read as each other, even if the intent is clear.
== Ruling 48 ==
;2021-04-25 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Ca judges make rulings on metaruleset proposals?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 49 ==
;2021-04-25 | Wotton
:rfj: the inventory lists in the wiki's gamestate page are not exhaustive lists.
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 50 ==
;2021-04-25 | Nyhilo
:rfj: In the proposal '''Does anyone stir a smoothie?''', is it the case that the two styles included in the table therein are the only styles that someone is allowed to give to their smoothie, as of this request for justice?
(obligation to submit a ruling discharged)
== Ruling 51 ==
;2021-04-26 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Does Kubby currently exist as a player?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "yes". E became a player After 23:59:59 on 2021-04-24, and that action was not eliminated by the ratification
== Ruling 52 ==
;2021-04-26 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: What is the current status of Kubby's ducks, if any?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "E has a duck named Kunimitsu." Same reason as before.
== Ruling 53 ==
;2021-04-27 | Wotton
:I formally request a ruling on the following statement:
:"The following actions failed, because they attempt to give names that were illegal under the ruleset at the time:"
:https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/835668747711938571
:https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/835666509761871872
:https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/835666652807954442
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "not sure". I think we actually don't know what the ruleset was at the time.
== Ruling 54 ==
;2021-04-28 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Is duck ownership lost when someone leaves a game?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat | OVERTURNED
:Response: "yes". Ducks are items, and it is heavily implied that items can only be owned by players, even if that is not explicitly stated anywhere.
;Self-overturned by Judge Random Internet Cat
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:New response: "no".
== Ruling 55 ==
;2021-04-28 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: Do players who stop being players still have items?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat | OVERTURNED
:Response: "no".
;Self-overturned by Judge Random Internet Cat
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:New response: "for all current items, yes".
== Ruling 56 ==
;2021-04-28 | [idle account]
:RfJ: is the round over? with Proposal :duck::exploding_head: in mind of course
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "no".
::Unless otherwise specified, the voting period for proposals made in Period One is Period Two, and the voting period for proposals made in Period Two is the next week's Period One.
:Unless otherwise specified, "unless otherwise specified" means "unless otherwise specified by a rule"
== Ruling 57 ==
;2021-04-28 | Nyhilo
:rfj: Requesting ruling on the following statement:
:If a player leaves the game, they lose ownership of all their items and do not gain them back if they rejoin.
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat | OVERTURNED
:Response: "true".
;Self-overturned by Judge Random Internet Cat
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
;New response: "false".
== Ruling 58 ==
;2021-04-28 | Wotton
:rfj: "not sure" is a truth-value (I just want to annoy idle)
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "no". Being "sure" of something is a purely subjective experience.
== Ruling 59 ==
;2021-04-28 | Nyhilo
:rfj: As per [https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/836914120678703134 the replied-to message], Jumble now only owns 1 duck, and has no items.
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
== Ruling 60 ==
;2021-04-28 | Wotton
:rfj: an overturned ruling is equivalent to ruling in favour of the negation of the initial ruling
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "false".
== Ruling 61 ==
;2021-04-28 | Wotton
:[[Round 9/Rulings#Ruling 28|re-rfj]]
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response:
:(A) "true" per arguments to overturn Ruling 25.
:(B) "false" based on a narrow definition of "effects". The effects are the results of the feeding action, and grapes do not change those, only make the feeding action legal in the first place.
== Ruling 62 ==
;2021-04-28 | Wotton
:[[Round 9/Rulings#Ruling 58|re-rfj]]
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "false".
== Ruling 63 ==
;2021-04-29 | JumbleTheCircle
:RfJ: How many ducks do I have?
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "a lot".
== Ruling 64 ==
;2021-05-04 | Wotton
:rfj: [https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/836927962808975390 this action] was successful
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "true". The performer set forth intent for the very large number of actions to be performed, which is the standard.
== Ruling 65 ==
;2021-05-04
:rfj: [https://discord.com/channels/515560801394753537/795369457340907561/836928315847213107 this action] was successful
;Ruling | Judge Random Internet Cat
:Response: "false". Performing something infinitely is not an action nor is it naturally possible, and intent was not set forth for the action to be performed any other amount of times.